Ichigo Kurosaki VS. Kaname Tousen?

Those who believe Kenpachi is stronger than Tousen, how do you feel about Ichigo when he defeated Kenpachi?

Does Ichigo pre-Bankai > or < Tousen in the Soul Society Arc?

ooohhh... this is ahard one. because they both have copleately different fighting styles.

let's see the facts, shall we:
1. Tousen used some thing against Uriyu and knocked him off (even Ishida was beaten up it's cool ability). So without knowing what that does i can't realy say how Ichi will face it.

2. Tousen's shower of swords (i forgot the name) can be easily defeated by Ichi whith Shinpou (he managed to beat senbonzakura after all)

3. Tousen's bankai is kinda frustating, it takesa away all ur sences exceot for touct/feal/pain (they are all the same - lol) But if u remember Ichigo is very perseptive and has a very fast reaction time (can hear Kenpachi's bells and can follow Byakuya's Shinpu and even managed to block & Attack Kariya) so ichigo has the advantage again.

4. Ichi's Getsuga Tenshou is a definate plus. And more so the Black GT in Bankai.

5. But Tousen been blind has a very high senses so it's a battle againt sences.

I belive if Ichi releases Bankai he can win against Tousen (but he has to act quickly).


Ichi only defeated Kenpachi with the help of Zangetsu (with all Zangetsu's power) Kenpachi has very high amount of Reiatsu than Ichi. If you remember it's a draw between them.
BGut that fight made Zangetsu metirialize which helped Ichi achive Bankai. So I'm glad Ichi defeated him (obviously) and because of it Kenpachi honers Ichi and conciders as his equal.

(and i have to say Kenpachi is cool how he fights Tousen and that shinigami from the Bountou arc - whatshisname?) and he fights intelligently (where as some people with that much of strenght only rely solely on their strenght - but not Kenpachi)

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well Kenpachi can survive some of tousens attacks [ well so far im only on 52 ] so if ichigo pre-Bankai could defeat Kenpachi then hes most likely stronger than Tousen.

as i said before, nobody likes tousen, lol.
i think ichigo would win not only cause i dont like tousen, but he could beat kenpachi before bankai, so i think he could slaughter tousen. grimmjow, on the other hand...

Its hard to say cuz they both have different fighting styles. Ichigo fights more with his sword and Kaname fights with her fists. I like Ichigo tho, so I say he can take her...and keep his clothes on while he does it

i dont know....maybe nobody wins???

in my opinion,kenpachi is stronger than tousen.ichigo is strong because of his spirit and will of his heart (to protect his friends) and maybe if ichigo fight with tousen he can win but now in the latest episode,it seems that tousen is getting stronger and more stronger than before.......even ichigo can't stand to fight ulquiorra (the 4th espada) even in his full strength...so how can he defeat tousen with his strength now...? or we can say that the most predictable person who will defeat tousen would probably be kenpachi since he's now has come to the hueco mundo...and enjoying his fighting with 5th espada(sorry,i forgot his name)...........so i think ichigo is strong but he has to gain more power,and need extraordinary training so he can be an extraordinary person.........

Ichigo!! That may be because he's my second-favorite anime character (Kyo Sohma being first), but you've gotta admit that he's got power and lots of determination!

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