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Don't You Sometimes Wish?


You could take all, well SOME of these kids who come here asking *legit*, but sometimes clueless basic question about rock music could all be sat down & made to watch a comprehensive, in-depth History of Rock documentary? Like, the birth of rock (1950s) all the way to today. & I'm talking All genres covered just so no one gets left out.

To my eyes, too many of them have no idea where their music came from.

Just hadda ask/rant. Don't mind me. I'm done.

Right on, Darth!

I think it's a fantastic idea. So much could get accomplished with one swing of the bat. You educate the masses. You drastically decrease the amount of silly questions. Finally, such a documentary you speak of would be the perfect deprogramming tool to undo the effects of Gerard Way & Pete Wentz.

Fonzie
Could I agree any more?
No

Well put.

I would actually love to watch that documentary. But to really do it justice, it would have to be at least 8 hours long. VH1 countdowns just don't cut it either!

I think I just had an epiphany for you:
If you make it, they will watch!!!

Said documentary would likely only cover pop music, and therefore, would not be indicitive of REAL music.
REAL music is in the underground.

Many of them don't have an idea about anything, not just music. I get tired of seeing all the requests to do their homework for them.

absolutely, they think their new bands are so original and will stand the test of time. Wait until they look back and see that their favorite bands sucked. i look back and know my favorite bands Rush, Queen, Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin rocked and still do!

It needs to be several documentaries.

A whole week of 9 - 5 lessons in 'Origins of 21st Century Music' sounds pretty good to me.

When do you intend to open this 'school' Fonzie? Can I enrol my cousins?!

Like, OMG! Questions about Fall Out Boy and Hannah Montana aren't legit?

I actually wouldn't mind that at all. Although, I doubt you're talking about me.

as a parent of two teenagers and a fellow classic rock lover have taken it upon myself to educate my kids about the history of rock'n'roll, they appreciate it, understand it and listen to alot of it on their own too! took a trip to the rock'n'roll hall of fame in cleveland in august, i highly recommend it!

Perhaps your " sometimes wish "comment applies to all types of music whether it be classical,opera,New Orleans Jazz, 1940's Swing and big Bands,,Original Rock and Roll, Old Country Music, Progressive Jazz or Hard Rock. Music is one of the Arts available to all and very enlightening to others. How many times does one get up in the morning , starts to hear a tune or whistle a tune with no idea why that tune popped into his head.. History of a genre is important. The appreciation , love and use of music relieves much of the stress of every day living.

Yep, I wish that all the time. I'm only 25, and I first got into music during the whole grunge thing, and yet I still managed to go back and educate myself on the groups from the 60's, 70's, and 80's. A good portion of my enormous CD collection is classic rock. What's more annoying is these kids today are wearing t-shirts of Led Zeppelin, AC/DC and Van Halen, but probably can't name more than a song or 2 by each group. Music is more of a fashion statement now. Kids today are so uncultured it makes me sick. My friend's sister is 18, and she had all her friends over at their house to hang out one time. My friend and I started talking about Stone Temple Pilots and Guns N' Roses, and that girl and her friends had no idea what we were talking about. They hadn't even heard of those groups!! I'll bet they sure know about 50 Cent and Kelly Clarkson though.......Makes me sick.

Amen to the homework point ^^^^, it's getting out of hand!

Part of the curriculum should be a compulsory Deconstruction class, in which they are faced with the awful truth that anything of value in about 60% of rap songs was lifted from 1970s funk and R&B like Parliament, James Brown and The Jackson 5.

On a different point, will Sean Kingston stop raiding other people's back catalogues for hooks to cover his inane lyrics, already?

Amen, Brother. Lesson 1: F*ck Elvis, Chuck Berry is the king of rock

Fonzie, I know the series you're talking about. VH-1 Classic still runs it occasionally. I don't really have much more to add, but you did give me a damn good idea for a question.






NP: "Hard Act to Follow" - Brother Cane

Most people dont know modern music comes from a combination of German polka and "Nergo Blues" from the 1900's. Kinda weird to find out that all "white people" music from Elvis to Metallica to Fall Out Boy is essentially "black people" music.

my parents taught me right - and i am soooo thankful that i'm not sucked into the world of emo and "rock" today. even what they call punk rock is NOT punk rock. rock has been on a steady decline since the year 1999, with very little hope extended by too few bands.
and don't even get me started on the "music" channel, MTV! (ps, i'm 23 but i know that real music lives beyond me and my lifetime!)

Love it.I was a weird one back in high school.I did a report on how much swing and big band music was a American sound.
I mean Benny Goodman etc,but some of the lesser act's like Alvino Ray and his talking guitar.This was a easy A in U.S History for me.I was brought up to listen to all forms of music.I might love Old Metal but still love to listen to Sinatra he was the Man of his time.His voice(Not range)was awesome.
I also love true Do-wop(My dad was in the first inter-racial top 10 Do-wop group The Del-Vikings for their 1st album.).So music was passion for me when I was younger.
Kinda weird my Dad like Ac/Dc and Guns-n- Roses.
I would love to teach in your school bro.I could teach where it came from.

Great idea. I think a good 101 on the original influences that all of their lame, bubblegum punk ('screamo', 'emo') bands ripped off from, would be in order.

Fonzie, That sounds like an excellent idea, if only we could get them to stop playing there PSP's and Wii's long enough to pay attention. The only other thing I might add is that you need to go further back than the fifties.

mike: I don't agree with what you want to do to Elvis, he is and always will be the King to many people. I agree that Chuck was more rock than "E" but he didn't cross over to the white people until after Elvis exploded.
And on the subject of "white people and black people music...Ryan, you speak only half truths when you say that rock came from the black mans music. The blacks used their African rhythms but lyrically they used spiritual music learned from the many white missionaries that visited their continent over the years.

We soaked this stuff up in real time. (real? time..hum)
How sweet it might have been had we had info on demand as today.
Imagine tryin to play catch up?
-whoa!-

No doubt there are young people out here pokin around for just what you're talkin about. Too bad they're subjected to so much clutter.

Back when VH1 was a force, I'd click through to their special series' "I Love the (decade here)" & "Behind The Music". It was great to get refreshed on stuff I'd forgotten and introduced to other stuff I somehow missed.

Since we're talkin tons of online content,VH1 has put a lot of work into their "classic" website and I'd recommend it as a starter course because of the navigational features and vid quality.
http://www.vh1classic.com/

I totally agree with you 100%.

The BBC had a show earlier this year called "Seven Ages Of Rock". It covered many aspects of the history of rock but it wasn't as in-depth as i had hoped for. For starters, the series completely ignored the 50's and there was nothing about 70's glam rock. Although each episode was 60 minutes long (the 7th and final episode was 90 min), i felt that there was a lot of stuff left out, especially on the punk and heavy metal episodes.

i like the idea. i've actually taken a music history class for that purpose. i know where most of my music comes from. im a music nerd so i actually enjoy learning about music. its orgins. most of the bands today are influenced but the older bands and yes you can hear it.

yeah they probably dont know where they're music came from


but how are they gonna find out if they dont ask questions??

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